Custom Station Creation Tutorial

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Custom Station Creation Tutorial

Postby FrankS on Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:22 pm

This guide will detail the steps to go by to create your own customized station, as well as detailing Request Radio, the fine-tune settings, and the effects these have on the output of your station, both through the web and on the Portable. This is not an all-inclusive guide, but should give a better understand of what each choice does and how to get the most out of your custom stations.
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Creating Your Own Station From Scratch

Postby FrankS on Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:26 pm

Creating your own station, at least initially can be a very simple process. Only a few things are required to get started. For the purposes of this guide, we will use a station created using these steps. A link to the station at each step of the process will be provided, so you can tune in to the station as we go through each aspect of Station Creation and can hear and see the differences for yourself.

  1. Once logged in to either the Slacker web site or the Software Player, click the "Create Station" button underneath the Heart/Ban buttons. This will bring up the Station Creator. The default tab for a new station will be "Add Artists".
  2. Begin by typing the name of an artist you would like to hear play on your station. This artist must be searchable (ie. Slacker staff have entered this artist into our database and have had other similar artists associated with them.) For our example station, our first artist will be Aerosmith. Once the artist name has been typed in, press the "Add" button to the right of the artist name. The artist name should then be listed in the "Artist playing on this station" list on the right of the Station Creator window.
    • If the artist is not found in our database, Slacker will suggest several artists that similarly match the name you typed in, and display them below the name you typed in. You will need to click either the artist name or the "Add>" button beside the artist name to add them into the station.
  3. Slacker will now display a list of artists related to the one you selected. (In our example station, Slacker listed Van Halen, Ted Nugent and AC/DC as the top artists related to Aerosmith.) At this point, there are several things you can do:
    1. You can type in another artist into the search bar to search another artist.
    2. You can browse through the list of names of related artists to add them to your station. Clicking on the "Add>" button will add the artist to the station. Clicking on the artist name will add them to the station and bring up a list of related artists to the one you clicked on. (In our example, we clicked the "Add>" button next to Van Halen, and then clicked on the name "AC/DC" to bring up their list of artists, which brought up Aerosmith, Great White, and Blue Oyster Cult as the top related artists.)
    3. You can click on the "Add 20>" button at the bottom of the search results to add the top 20 artists not already selected to the list. (For our example, we clicked the "Add 20>" to add 20 more artists.)
    NOTE: Any artist already added to the list will show up as yellow in the search results, and will not be included in the "Add 20>" selection. (Since we had already added Aerosmith, AC/DC, and Van Halen, Slacker added the next top 20 artists, #3-13 and #15-23.)

NOTE: A station must contain at least 15 artists to reasonably be able to guarantee that the station will not play any other artists other than those listed in the station will not play. This is not an absolute guarantee, merely a common benchmark most station must meet. If less than 15 artists are added, Slacker will fill in at least that many with related artists.

(At this point, you could continue customizing the station by selecting the tabs at the top to further customize the station. Since we will be talking about each of these tabs in turn, for the tutorial purposes, we will not.)

The last thing absolutely needed to create your station is to click the "Save As.." button at the bottom of the Station Creator window. This will pop up a "Name Your Station" box, where you can give your station any name you want. (For our example, we're calling our station "Custom Station Tutorial 1" as we'll be making a few of them for each part of this tutorial.) Once you have named your station, click "Save" in the pop up window.

Congratulations! Your custom station has now been created and is ready for listening. You can now listen to your station if you like.

To hear the example station at this point, click here.
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Adding/Removing Artists

Postby FrankS on Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:30 pm

After a station has been created, everything about it can be edited to further refine the music and artists you are hearing. The most basic way to change a station is to add or remove artists from the Artist list for the station. (In our example station, we've noticed that Judas Priest and The Cars were not added, and we also want to remove Rainbow and Angels from our list.)

To edit an already created station, select the "Edit Station" option underneath the "Play" button on the station page. Likewise, if the station you want to edit is not currently selected, you will need to select it from the Station Listing to the left of the station information page. Once again, the Station Creator will open and again default to the "Add Artists" tab.

NOTE: From this point inside the Station Creator, you can finish each edit with one of three selections: "Save" to overwrite your current copy of the station with the changes you've made, "Save As.." to keep the original station unedited and to save the new station under a different name, and "Cancel" to not save any of the changes made, and keep the original station before editing. In our examples, we'll be saving the station under a different name each time, but most times, you'll want to just click "Save" to keep only the most current version of your station including all your changes.

To add artists, follow the same procedure from the initial station creation. (In our example, we typed in “Judas Priest” and added them to our list. We also typed in “The Cars” and they were also added.)

You can also click on any artist already in your "Artists playing on this station" list to bring up their related artists. (In our example, we clicked on Led Zeppelin to bring up their related artists, and selected the "Add 20>" button to add 20 more artists that were similar to Led Zeppelin.)

To remove artists from the list, click the "X" button next to the artist name. Removing an artist from the list will also immediately ban the artist. This is changeable, and will be discussed later. Finally, press Save to accept your changes, or Cancel to reject them.

(In our example, we clicked the "X" next to Rainbows and Angels in order to remove them from the Artist list. We then saved our station to accept the changes.)

To hear the station after we added and removed artists, click here.
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Fine-Tuning Your Custom Station

Postby FrankS on Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:36 pm

NOTE: The numbers derived for each setting is based off of this custom station. Your own numbers may vary depending on the number of artists in your station, the artists available in our catalog and whether the station is being played online or on the Portable Player. These are meant only to give a general idea of the results to expect but are no means set-in-stone figures.

At this point in station creation, we’ve only added artists and told Slacker around what artists to base the station around. However, there are several “sliders” available to customize the station further, to either expand or limit the amount of songs Slacker can pull for the station. We’ll go over these options individually and what effect they have on the end listening experience.

First, edit your station. Again you’ll start on the “Add Artists” tab. This time, click on the “Fine Tune” tab. This will display the Fine Tune Settings window. Depending on the station, you will have either between 3 to 5 sliders available to change how Slacker chooses the tracks for your station.


  • Artist Discovery
    This option tells Slacker whether or not artists not chosen on the station should play and, if so, how much. This uses the same list that was pulled when you search for artists to find similar artists. This option has four settings:
    • Off: Selecting off will disable Artist Discovery, only playing the artists listed to play on the station. This will remain off unless Slacker runs out of available music on your station to play. This is based off regulations and licensing rules stating what artists/songs can be played and how often. (For more information on these regulations, you can read this post.)
    • Some: Selecting this option will allow a minimum amount of artists not included on the station’s Artist List. This means approx 1-3 songs out of every 10-15 will be artists not listed, on average.
    • More: Selecting this option will allow a moderate amount of artists not included on the station’s Artist List. This means approx 4-8 songs out of every 10-15 will be artists not listed, on average.
    • Max: Selecting this option will play mostly artists not included on the station’s Artist List. This means approx 9-14 songs out of every 10-15 will be artists not listed, on average.
  • Popularity (Song) (Updated)
    This option tells Slacker how popular the tracks should be. The popularity of the track is based the amount of airplay the song received, its charting position, and also Slacker’s own DJs rating. This selection is ignored by any hearted songs. This option has five settings:
    • Auto: This settings plays a mix from all popularity levels, though heavily weighted to play popular songs. This means that most of the songs you hear will still be the most popular, but each group will be pulled from.
    • Hits: This setting the station play all the songs you know, and none of the ones you don't. This selection will only play Hits and some Familiar song, but no Unfamiliar or Fringe.
    • Familiar: This setting allows a more even mix of well-known songs, still playing all the hits but delving a bit deeper into an artist's catalog. This selection will an even mix of both Hits and Familiar songs with an occasional Unfamiliar song thrown in.
    • Unfamiliar: This setting causes music from all four popularity levels to play in an completely even mix. This results in pulling from all popularity levels equally. This means that you will hear songs from the hits all the way to the most fringe songs. (From my research, this setting usually results in the most available tracks for a station to be able to be played and makes you less likely to hear repeats.)
    • Fringe: This settings weights the station to play all the deeper cuts of the artists, excluding the most popular songs. This means you'll hear mostly Unfamiliar and Fringe songs with the occasional Familiar song thrown in.
  • Favorites (Updated)
    This option tells Slacker how much of the playlist should be made up of Favorite songs. This option has been changed to include favorites in their own bucket, played independently of all other station settings. How often favorites play do depend on there being enough favorite songs to fill up the station correctly. This option has four settings:
    • Auto: This setting will give your favorite songs a slightly preferential status. On average, you should hear a favorite song about once every 3-6 songs.
    • Minimum: This settings gives favorite songs no preferential status. This allows all favorite ratings to be negated and will play your station as if there were no favorite songs.
    • More: This setting will give your favorite songs high preferential status. This usually means you'll get a favorite songs every 2-5 songs.
    • Maximum: This setting will give you favorite songs extreme preferential status. This usually results in hear multiple favorite songs in a row before hearing a non-favorite. If there are enough favorite songs on a station, you will hear these songs almost exclusively.
  • Year
    This option tells Slacker what portion of an artist’s career you would like music to be pulled from. This is based on year of track release. This setting is highly dependant on the amount of albums the artist has released. This option has five settings:
    • Auto: This setting will play tracks spanning the entirety of an artist’s career, and will pick on a weighted system, with newer tracks receiving slight preferential status to older tracks. However, all albums can be accessed through this.
    • Classic: This setting will only play the beginning albums from an artist, usually between the first and second album. This setting will also not play any album not included as being in the early career.
    • Older: This setting will only play the beginning through mid-career albums from an artist, usually between the first and fourth album. This setting will also not play any album not included in early/mid career of the artist.
    • Recent: This setting will only play the mid-career through current albums, usually ranging from the fourth-most recent album to the most current album. This setting will also not play any album not included in the mid/current career.
    • Current: This setting will only play the most current albums of an artist’s career, usually the 2 most recent albums. This setting will also not play any album not included in the most recent career.
  • DJ
    This option (at this time) only appears on Today’s Hits, but is will eventually be present on all Slacker radio stations. This slider only has two options: On and Off. On will allow both DJs and station identifications to play approx. twice an hour each. Off disables both DJs and station identification. This option is only available to Premium Radio subscribers.
Some of these settings work well together, while others do not. You have to experiment some to get the exact sound you want out of your individual stations. However, these explanations should give a starting point to understand how they affect what you will hear, and can let you plan accordingly.

Keep in mind that these stations may sound different between the online version and the Portable version. Through testing, we’ve found that changing both the Popularity and Year settings off the “Auto” setting can cause the station to be too limited in its available library, causing the station to shut down. Also note that changes made to a station’s settings will not automatically be reflected on the Portable version. Once a change is made to the station’s settings, any new music the Portable downloads for that station will conform to the new settings, but all music currently on the Portable for that station will conform to the previous settings. You can also “force” the station to update with the current settings by removing the station completely from your Portable and then reading the station back, which will then load all music for the station based on the current settings.

(For our example station, we have Artist Discovery set to “Some”, Popularity set to “Auto”, Favorites set to “More”, and Year set to “Older”. This was done to hear the earlier careers of the artists in the station, to play songs we like frequently, and still inject new artists in to hear new music.)

Once your settings have been changed, click the Save button at the bottom to accept your changes.

To hear the custom station after the above changes, click here.
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Request Radio and Song Ratings

Postby FrankS on Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:48 pm

*NOTE: Request Radio is available to both Basic and Premium Radio subscribers only, though Basic listeners are limited to the amount of songs they can favorite through Request Radio, while Premium subscribers are not limited.

Request Radio is a new feature that allows you to rate songs before they are heard, allowing you to customize further the songs your station can pull from. Since favorited songs are not influenced by any of the station’s Fine Tune settings (with the exception of Favorites), you can use Request Radio to pick music that would normally be outside the range of the station’s settings.

To access Request Radio, click the “Edit Station” button on the station’s page. Once again, you’ll default to the “Add Artists” tab. Click on the “Request Songs” tab to enter Request Radio.

The Request Radio window will look similar to the Add Artists window, with a search bar, “Go” button, and a Related Artists listing below it. Entering an artist into Request Radio works exactly the same as searching to add them to the station. However, in place of the “Artists playing on this station” window, you will see a Song Listing window.

Type any artist name into the search box and click the “Go” button. This artist does not have to previously added to the station to be searchable. Also, if the artist name isn’t found in our database, a list of artists with similarly spelled names will appear for you to select.

(For our example station, we typed in “Aerosmith.”)

In the Song Listing window, you will now see a list of songs by this artist currently in our database. The songs will have three aspects to them: Heart Status, Song Title, and Popularity. These songs will initially be sorted by Popularity, beginning with the most popular song. This list, however, can be sorted by any of the categories by clicking on their heading. The sort order can be reversed by clicking on the same header. Once songs are hearted, you can click the “Request” header to sort the songs by songs already hearted and songs not yet hearted, but there must be at least one song with a filled heart icon for this sorting to work.

(For our example, we changed the sorting to Song Title by clicking on “Songs by Aerosmith”, and then clicked “Songs by Aerosmith” to reverse the sort order.)

To favorite the song, click on the Heart icon next to the song title. You can also click on a filled heart icon to remove it.

(For our example, we scrolled down and clicked the Heart icon next to the songs “Pink,” “Love in an Elevator,” and “Falling in Love (is Hard on the Knees).”)

Hearts are remembered tentatively during this point, so you don’t have to click Save each time you search for an artist. You can search for an artist, heart songs by them, and then search for another artist, heart songs by the second artist, and Slacker will remember the songs you have hearted so far. Artists currently not listed on a station’s Artist List will be added automatically if you heart a song from them. Be aware that all these changes are only saved temporarily and will not be applied and kept if the station is not saved at the end.

(For our example, we then searched for the artist “Styx” (currently not added to our station), and hearted the song “Come Sail Away.” Styx was then automatically added to the Artist List.)

The other portion of song control is listed under “Edit Ratings” which is the tab for seeing currently hearted/banned songs and banned artists. To reach the Edit Ratings window, click the “Edit Ratings” tab at the top.

On the left side of the Edit Ratings window, you will see a listing of songs which will have either a yellow heart (signifying a favorited song) or a yellow ban (signifying a banned song). To the right will be a listing of banned artists, each with a yellow ban symbol in front of their name.

(In our example, our favorited/banned song list is empty (we still haven’t saved those songs we hearted through Request Radio), but we do see two banned artists, Angels and Rainbow, from when we removed them earlier. In order to view all songs, we saved our station, and then clicked “Edit Station” and then the “Edit Ratings” tab. Our hearted songs from Request Radio now appear, displayed on the left side.)

To hear the station after hearting songs through Request Radio, click here.

Any song rating can be changed, by either clicking on the opposite icon (clicking the heart on a banned song to change it from banned to favorited, and visa versa) or clicking on the lit icon to remove its rated status (clicking on the heart on a favorited song will remove its favorited status, but will not ban the song.)

On the same token, clicking on the Ban icon next to an artist name, will remove the ban of that artist. You can also click on the Ban icon again to reban the artist.

(For our example, we changed the rating of “Come Sail Away” from favorited to banned by clicking on the Ban icon next to the song. We also removed the rated status of “Falling in Love” by clicking on the Heart icon, which turned both icons white (versus yellow). We also unbanned Angels by clicking on the Ban icon next to the artist name, turning that Ban icon white (versus yellow).)

Finally, press Save to accept your changes, or Cancel to reject them.

To hear the station after changing ratings, click here.
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Customizing the Look/Sharing Your Station

Postby FrankS on Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:54 pm

Once a station has been fully customized, you may want to change the way the station looks on the web or Software Player when someone listens to it. Likewise, you may also want to share your station with your friends, co-workers, or otherwise. Slacker offers a couple of options to help put the finising touches on your personalized custom station to make it truly yours.

Once again, click on the “Edit Station” button. Once again, you’ll be brought to the “Add Artists” tab. Click on the “Publish” tab to enter the Publish/Sharing window.

The first option you have in station look customization is the station picture used. On the left side of the Publish window, you will see a list of the artists currently playing on this station. This can be used to select which artist picture the station displays. By default, this picture will show the top artist alphabetically. You can click on any of these artists to display their picture and to select it for viewing.

Likewise, you can also upload your own picture to make the station completely unique. This picture must be either in JPEG or GIF format. There is no file size requirement (as Slacker will resample the picture to fit its own format) you will usually want to keep the picture roughly at a 4:3 or 3:4 ratio to make sure it will fit nicely, or you may risk you picture being cropped automatically to fit.

To upload your own picture, click the “Upload” button underneath the current picture. (You must have the latest version of Java installed on your computer in order for this program to work properly.) Once the application is loaded, the artist list will be replaced with a picture loading program. Click the “Browse” button to open an “Open File” dialog. Locate a compatible picture on your hard drive and click the “Upload” button once it is selected to upload the picture to Slacker. Your picture will now display above the “Upload” button as it will appear on your station page.

(For our example, we clicked on Upload, then selected a picture of a wrench, and clicked Upload to add the picture to the station.)

The second option for station look customization is the Station Description, located on the right side of the Publish window. By default, this will read a listing of the first few artists listed on your station’s Artist List. You can type any description you want into this box, up to 500 characters. (That includes spaces.) A counter at the top of the window will count how many characters you have used so far so you can keep track.

Once you have finished editing your station’s look and description, click “Save” to accept the changes or “Cancel” to abandon the changes.

(For our example, we typed in the description, “This station was made by the Slacker staff to help educate our listeners how to make their own custom stations. Feel free to make your own!” which ended up being 139 characters long. To make sure our changes were saved before we share the station, we clicked the Save button to commit those changes.)

To listen and see the station with the changes made to the picture and description, click here.

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Finally, we’ve worked pretty hard on this station, and we want to share it with friends, family, and co-workers so they can enjoy it too. To send your station out to other people, we’ll want to share the station. This can be done either from the “Share Station” button on the “Publish” tab under the “Edit Station” option, or can be easily accessed from the “Share Station” button on the main station page.

Once in the Share Station window, you can choose to share your station several ways, either by e-mail, MySpace, or any text-based link (such as a web page or instant message window.)

To share your station via e-mail, just fill in the blanks appropriately with the recipient’s e-mail address, you own name and e-mail address, and an optional short message to them and then click the “Send” button at the bottom to send the e-mail link to your station.

To share your station via MySpace, click the “Add to MySpace” button at the bottom of the page. From the MySpace Sharing page, select either the short or tall version of the MySpace player, then copy the code written to the right of the picture and paste it into your MySpace page. Once the player has been added to your MySpace page, click the “Done” button to return to the main station page.

To share your station via a text link, copy the entire text written in the “Copy Station Link” and paste it into any instant message client, web page, or other text-based message system to give people a clickable link that will take them directly to the station. If you are using this method, click “Cancel” to return to the main station page once you have copied the station’s link text.

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This concludes the main tutorial on creating your own Custom Radio Station through Slacker. We hoped this has taught you a lot, and hope this will help in making your own stations that much better. If you have any further questions, please post them in this thread. Below this will be added an FAQ for some of the common questions we get from this thread. Again, thank you for reading and happy listening and creating!
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Custom Station Creation Tutorial - FAQ

Postby FrankS on Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:54 pm

Reserved for future questions about custom station creation not covered in this tutorial.
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Custom Station Tutorial - Question

Postby mcrawford on Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:20 am

Thanks for the great tutorial on creating a custom station. I have a question. In the Popularity section, you wrote:
"Fringe: ... This selection will only play Fringe, and will not play any Hits, Familiar, or Unfamiliar music."
(With similar section for the other settings.)

The fact that this setting will only play Fringe songs, and nothing from the others, is directly opposite to the answer I got from email customer support some time ago (last September). The email support said that Fringe will still play the Hits and other categories, just not as often.

Which is correct?
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Re: Custom Station Tutorial - Question

Postby FrankS on Fri Apr 25, 2008 3:22 pm

mcrawford wrote:The fact that this setting will only play Fringe songs, and nothing from the others, is directly opposite to the answer I got from email customer support some time ago (last September). The email support said that Fringe will still play the Hits and other categories, just not as often.

Which is correct?


Well, according to our programming staff, both are right....sort of.

Now the best way to explain this is to draw a picture. Now, this is a basic example and things on the backside are a lot more complicated than this, but this should give a basic idea of how sliders influence your station.

For each category (we'll use popularity in this case) the entirety of songs are divided into "buckets" that hold each song. For our example, we'll label these buckets "Hits", "Familiar", "Unfamiliar", and "Fringe". (Excuse the crudeness of my ASCII art diagrams.)

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With me so far? Ok good.

Now, each of these buckets containing songs are further divided into four more buckets. Let's take the Hits bucket for example. Inside the Hits bucket, we'll have "Hit Hits", "Familiar Hits", "Unfamiliar Hits", and "Fringe Hits".

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Still with me?

When you select "Fringe" on your slider, you're telling Slacker to play things from the fringe side. However, all station are still set to play a certain amount of hits, familiar, unfamiliar, and fringe regardless of setting. However, on a station set to "Fringe" goes to play a hit, it's going to grab a song from the "Fringe Hits" bucket instead of the other three. (For example, we might rate a hit by U2 in the Hit Hits, but a hit by The Toy Dolls may only register as an Unfamiliar Hit or a Fringe Hit.)

This is, of course all dependent on other settings that the station has, including other slider settings, which artists the station has to pull from, and whether the station is web-based or portable-based among other factors.

I'll try to clarify the guide to mention it will play Hit songs from all categories, Familiar songs from each category, etc. in the same capacity it plays artists on Auto, but that it is still limited based off what you are selecting (or at least find a wording that doesn't take another half page to explain).

Thanks for the question! Hope this answers it.
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Re: Custom Station Creation Tutorial

Postby mcrawford on Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:52 pm

Thanks for the very detailed answer! I should mention that Slacker support has, so far, been light years ahead of my other two experiences with music services, Yahoo and Rhapsody. So I thank you for that.

I guess my real question is, by setting the slider to Unfamiliar or Fringe, am I actually eliminating songs from the station's consideration? That's what it sounds like from your description.

I had thought that changing the slider would just change the weights of the buckets, so that setting it to Unfamiliar would mean that the station would play more songs from the Unfamiliar bucket than it would have.

Is it possible to eliminate entire artists by changing that slider?
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Re: Custom Station Creation Tutorial

Postby FrankS on Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:35 am

mcrawford wrote:I guess my real question is, by setting the slider to Unfamiliar or Fringe, am I actually eliminating songs from the station's consideration? That's what it sounds like from your description.


This is basically correct. Remember that the sliders are only influencers, as in they tell Slacker which way to go, but they aren't hard and fast settings. By setting your station to Fringe, you're telling it to select from the far end of each "bucket." From the example above, if it runs out of Fringe Hits, it will begin pulling from Unfamiliar Hits, Familiar Hits, and Hit Hits, until enough time has elapsed that it can pull those songs again. Again, it's very dependent on the settings for the station since there are settings you could do that would cause this situation. This guide is made for the most common listening experience. In those cases, songs that are on the Hit side of each "bucket" will pretty much be guaranteed not to play.

mcrawford wrote:Is it possible to eliminate entire artists by changing that slider?


Not through the sliders themselves. Each artist has at least one track in each bucket (again, for the most part) so while you can limit their play, the only way to actually remove an artist from play is by outright banning them.
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Re: Custom Station Creation Tutorial

Postby PatentGuy on Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:02 am

It sure would be nice to have the option to play familiar and hits, and not just one or the other. That is, why not have check boxes for popularity that allow a choice of one or more of Hits, Familiar, Unfamiliar, and Fringe.

I made four copies of my favorite custom station. Each copy is identical except one is Hits, one is Familiar, one is Unfamiliar, and the fourth is set at Auto. I am hearing totally different songs on the Hits station compared to the Familiar station. (I am listening on my Portable.)

I just started listening to the Auto station and I am not really hearing any repeats from the hits or familiar stations, but its only been a few hours. For this particular station, I really don't want fringe or unfamiliar and that seems be what I am hearing on Auto.
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Re: Custom Station Creation Tutorial

Postby mcrawford on Sat May 03, 2008 8:36 am

That's a great experiment, PatentGuy. Yeah, check boxes would be nice, or some way to change the Fringe>>Hits weighting so that I wouldn't be eliminating songs by changing the slider. With my stations, I generally feel like the Hits get played too often, and I'd like to hear more album tracks that are probably tagged as Unfamiliar or Fringe. So I end up switching the slider around to the different settings, Auto, Unfamiliar, and Fringe, to hear all of the songs.

On the other hand, I really love how easy Slacker is to use, so every time I think of a suggestion, I wonder if it's just making things too complicated. Slacker generally gives me songs I want to hear without a ton of work on my part (a la Yahoo radio).
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Re: Custom Station Creation Tutorial

Postby L5gcw0b on Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:14 am

Can anyone else edit my station?
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Re: Custom Station Creation Tutorial

Postby FrankS on Fri Jun 13, 2008 6:30 am

L5gcw0b wrote:Can anyone else edit my station?


Short answer: No.

Long Answer: When you share your station with someone, each person that tunes in actually makes a copy of that station at that time. This is so each person can make their own hearts and bans without changing the hearts/bans for everyone that tunes in. Likewise each person can add or remove artists, change fine tune settings, etc to their copy. However, your original station remains as is.

However, the downside to this is that if you make any updates to your station that you want to pass on, the people you shared the station with will not get those changes. The only way for people to get every change that you make is to have them tune into your station via the Share Station link they original got, not tuning in through the station listing on the Slacker Web Player.

However, your original station will be fine and will only be editable by you.
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Re: Custom Station Creation Tutorial

Postby L5gcw0b on Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:13 am

Thank You. I was concerned about sharing.
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Re: Fine-Tuning Your Custom Station

Postby fullbug on Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:00 am

FrankS wrote:[*]Favorites
[*]Minimum: This setting will give your favorited songs slight preferential status, allowing 1 favorited song to play every 3-10 non-favorited songs, depending on the amount of favorited songs. Additional songs by an artist will be played regardless of the amount of favorited songs.


Is this right? The description on the Fine Tune tab in the Web player says that Minimum "will have no influence of the frequency that your favorites play." I have my Favorites set to Auto, but would like to have them play a litle less. The Minimum description above would be perfect, the Minimum description on the Web player would not. Which is correct? Thanks.


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Re: Fine-Tuning Your Custom Station

Postby mcrawford on Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:09 am

fullbug wrote:
FrankS wrote:[*]Favorites
[*]Minimum: This setting will give your favorited songs slight preferential status, allowing 1 favorited song to play every 3-10 non-favorited songs, depending on the amount of favorited songs. Additional songs by an artist will be played regardless of the amount of favorited songs.


Is this right? The description on the Fine Tune tab in the Web player says that Minimum "will have no influence of the frequency that your favorites play." I have my Favorites set to Auto, but would like to have them play a litle less. The Minimum description above would be perfect, the Minimum description on the Web player would not. Which is correct? Thanks.


Michael


What was the ruling on this one? I'm interested myself. Setting Favorites to Auto seems to be a huge difference from Minimum.
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Re: Custom Station Creation Tutorial

Postby FrankS on Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:19 am

Just wanted to post that I've added the changes that were made to a couple of the sliders, and how they will affect your station. If you have any questions about the changes or how the affect your stations, reply here or send me a PM.
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Re: Custom Station Creation Tutorial

Postby PatentGuy on Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:32 am

FrankS wrote:Just wanted to post that I've added the changes that were made to a couple of the sliders, and how they will affect your station. If you have any questions about the changes or how the affect your stations, reply here or send me a PM.

This note is not clear. You added what changes where?
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